[DCAD] DCAD Session Proposal Reminder due April 26

Mon Apr 22 01:33:59 PDT 2024

Hello all,

I just returned from Slovenia, after intensive days of workshops,
conference and AGM. So please bear with me and my late response.
I will give your request the attention is needs this evening.
Thank you for putting the draft proposal together.

All the best!
Lidia

*Lidia Best, CPACC*

Consultant & Trainer
 Accessibility I Hearing Health I Standardization for persons who are deaf
or hard of hearing

co- Vice Chair - International Telecommunication Union Joint Coordination
Activity on Accessibility and Human Factors ( JCA-AHF)
https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/jca/ahf/Pages/default.aspx

President - European Federation of Hard of Hearing People  ( EFHOH)
https://www.efhoh.org/news-from-efhoh/
*Mobile: +44 7865636361*

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 7:21 AM Andrea Saks <andrea at andreasaks.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your support Deidre,
>
>
>
> As I said it is not just IGF/DCAD but all of them each thinking “theirs”
> is the most important group or meeting on the planet.  I do not know of
> anyone else who try’s to attend them all.  However now I have the problem
> in the ITU as well. The three sectors do not talk to each other.
>
>
>
> I found an old document ( attached) this morning by accident dated 2009
> when DCAD was formed by the ITU when I was asked by Malcolm Johnson of the
> ITU to form DCAD.  It just popped up as it was misfiled.  It is not
> corrected and I do not know yet where the corrected version is filed yet in
> this ancient PC.  But have a look at this old gem and you will see that the
> same things were being said then as are now being said.
>
>
>
> The only real difference now is that we have captioning  now and sometimes
> sign interpreters at meetings. Industry is still has the same mind set and
> accessbility is not really mainstreamed in schools.  It should start at
> kindergarten.
>
>
>
> Even though then as now both the ITU and IGF claim to be the first users
> of captioning.  I think there was a deployment difference of 3 months
> between the two groups.   Deidre you were around in 2009. So looking back
> what do you think we have we really changed.  Unfortunately unless we have
> genetic implantation of the right consciousness in people’s brain we seem
> to have to have a tiny group in all of the UN organization almost begging
> for recognition for the main stream to do the right thing.
>
>
>
> What is my point?? It is always going to be a never ending battle.  Unless
> we remember the past and make sure there is an experienced accessbility
> expert on the main ruling board of IGF we will be doomed to continue to
> spin our wheels in this side group.  I am trying to locate the first DCAD
> accessbility document so you all can see it. It is somewhere in this old PC
> that I happen to be using this morning.
>
>
>
> Would you send me your copy when you amend the your copy of the document.
> I would like to have a look at your version. If I have a suggestion I will
> send it directly to you as I respect your opinion as you have worked with
> me from the very beginning. If you find what ever I say useful you can
> incorporate or not as you see fit.
>
>
>
> Again thanks for your support Deidre.  I do not know how we can get people
> to work together on the planning of meetings or not.  IGF and ITU have
> been in competition for a very long time since the “fall out” between
> Hamadoun Toure and Vint Cerf many many years ago. I have a very long
> memory. And I keep plodding along.  Turn 77 next month and I started
> answering the phone for my deaf parents at 18 months of age.
>
>
>
> Another chapter for the  book.
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> All the best
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>
>
> Andrea
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> *Andrea J Saks*
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>
>
> *ITU lAUREATE*
>
> *International Telecommunications Specialist for the Deaf*
>
> Designated Intersector Coordinator on Accessibility for ISCG
>
> (ITU-T Intersector Coordination Group)
>
> Chairman JCA-AHF, (Joint Coordinating Activity on Accessibility and Human
> Factors)
>
> JCA-AHF Rep. to IGF DCAD,  (Internet Government Forum-Dynamic Coalition on
> Accessibility and Disability)
>
> Tel +44 1242 820 800 <+44%201242%20820%20800> voice land line
> mobile + 44 7956 222916 <+%2044%207956%20222916> (UK) What’s App and SMS
>
> USA Cell mobile  +1 425 233 5308  voice only when in USA. SMS and
> WhatsApp
> emailandrea at andreasaks.com
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> *From:* Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 21, 2024 5:22 PM
> *To:* Andrea Saks <andrea at andreasaks.com>
> *Cc:* Dynamic Coalition on Accessibility and Disability <
> dcad at lists.igf-dcad.org>; Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>;
> Muhammad Shabbir <mshabbirawan at gmail.com>; Lidia Best <
> best.lidia at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [DCAD] DCAD Session Proposal Reminder due April 26
>
>
>
> Let's work to include Andrea's suggestion in our proposal. Just because it
> is now possible to have universal meetings is no justification for having
> them. I find this is a local problem too. I'll try to include the idea in
> my comments when I look at the document this afternoon. I think it is very
> relevant and not only for the "disability " community.
>
> That having been said and just to be difficult DCAD does need to have some
> sort of regular communication to justify its existence.  Perhaps we can
> come up with a better way?
>
> Deirdre
>
>
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> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024, 11:51 Andrea Saks, <andrea at andreasaks.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Judith and all,
>
>
>
> Due to the many conflicts of many meetings that are occurring during this
> past week and this week to follow and many of them being at the same time
>  and because organizers having no recourse  with no method of checking in
> advance being employed by the planners of the timing of these meetings as
> to which meetings that pertain to the progress of persons with disabilities
> so that they not being scheduled in conflict, I regret I am unable to help.
>
>
>
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> I am taking the ITU to task about this. So I hope IGF and DCAD take this
> on board. These past two weeks have been a nightmare for me trying to
> attend all that I need to and not managing it.
>
>
>
> Sorry I can’t help within the time frame given due to the schedule of
> conflicts I am trying to navigate.
>
>
>
> Apologies.
>
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>
> All the best
>
>
>
> Andrea
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> *Andrea J Saks*
>
>
>
> *ITU lAUREATE*
>
> *International Telecommunications Specialist for the Deaf*
>
> Designated Intersector Coordinator on Accessibility for ISCG
>
> (ITU-T Intersector Coordination Group)
>
> Chairman JCA-AHF, (Joint Coordinating Activity on Accessibility and Human
> Factors)
>
> JCA-AHF Rep. to IGF DCAD,  (Internet Government Forum-Dynamic Coalition on
> Accessibility and Disability)
>
> Tel +44 1242 820 800 <+44%201242%20820%20800> voice land line
> mobile + 44 7956 222916 <+%2044%207956%20222916> (UK) What’s App and SMS
>
> USA Cell mobile  +1 425 233 5308  voice only when in USA. SMS and
> WhatsApp
> emailandrea at andreasaks.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* DCAD <dcad-bounces at lists.igf-dcad.org> *On Behalf Of *Judith
> Hellerstein via DCAD
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 20, 2024 9:57 PM
> *To:* judith at jhellerstein.com; Dynamic Coalition on Accessibility and
> Disability <dcad at lists.igf-dcad.org>
> *Cc:* Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>; Muhammad Shabbir <
> mshabbirawan at gmail.com>; Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com>;
> Lidia Best <best.lidia at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [DCAD] DCAD Session Proposal Reminder due April 26
>
>
>
> HI All,
>
> Just a reminder that all edits on this proposal are due before COB April
> 26 UTC time.
>
> I will then review it and finalise it so we can submit before the deadline.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Judith Hellerstein
>
> DCAD Co-Coordinator
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> judith at jhellerstein.com
>
> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2024, at 2:19 AM, Judith Hellerstein via DCAD <
> dcad at lists.igf-dcad.org> wrote:
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> 
>
> HI DCAD Members,
>
> As was discussed on the call, I have begun drafting the session proposal
> focusing on the third theme, Advancing human rights and inclusion in the
> digital age
>
> I have also copied and pasted the instructions sheet from the IGF about
> the requirements needed for the session, what type of session, the length
> of the session, and other required details.  I am attaching this as a Word
> document, titled Proposal Questions.
>
> As Nicodemus suggested, I have opened a Google Doc so we could collaborate
> together.  Hopefully the document is accessible to all.  If people have
> accessibility issues, please do let me know, but I believe since it is
> straight text there should not be issues.
>
> Everyone will have commenting access to the document so that I can see the
> suggestions comments that you are making to the document.  We also need to
> decide on the type of session, Roundtable, theatre, etc and the length of
> the session
>
> Also which of the SDG goals do we meet
>
> The shared document can be found here,
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6BDhVk19kGojdaJL6vlx8NPVQFJf9OJ0Xggbw0uIrs/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I look forward to hearing from all
>
> Best,
>
> Judith Hellerstein
>
> DCAD Co-Coordinator
>
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> On 4/16/24 8:53 AM, Nicodemus Nyakundi wrote:
>
> Hello Judith,
>
> I was wondering if there is a shared document that we could use to
> collaborate on drafting the session proposal? If so, would you mind sharing
> it with me?
>
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Nicodemus Nyakundi
>
>
>
>
> The IGF 2024 programme will be organized according to the following four
> subthemes <https://intgovforum.org/en/content/igf-2024-themes>:
>
>    - Harnessing innovation and balancing risks in the digital space
>
>
>    - Enhancing the digital contribution to peace, development, and
>    sustainability
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>    - Advancing human rights and inclusion in the digital age
>
>
>    - Improving digital governance for the Internet We Want
>
> We decided to focus on the 3rd theme.  Advancing human rights and
> inclusion in the digital age.
>
>
>
> We look forward to your input and comments
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Judith Hellerstein
>
> DCAD Co-Coordinator
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> judith at jhellerstein.com
>
> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
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